Doug and Pat take a look at a couple of high priced Gibson "dead on this time" R9 Les Paul's and again ask the question: how do you know it's exactly like a true '58-59-60 burst, do you have one? They compare them to a couple vintage guitars to see if they are indeed "clones". Let's look at the details and see how they compare because friends-Gibson is charging you a premium for the honor of owning one. Maybe there are some details you can use for your next purchase unless you just don't care. Then you're on your own.